Eyecandy time...

[David Kastrup]

Ok, I just got a mail from the EuroTeX organizers: they need the
handouts for the conference by the end of the week, so screenshots and
similar should be prepared a few days before if I want to have a
chance of working them into my demo. This probably will mostly affect
Miguel...

This is supposed to be a workshop going over several hours. Fabrice
has said that I'll probably have Windows boxen (oh great) with the
latest XEmacs installed (oh great). I think we would not necessarily
be doing the users a favor (in particular considering Unicode), so I
am thinking of maybe persuading Fabrice that we can take a rather
recent Windows CVS Emacs instead. I have to take an attempt of
convincing him about that. Maybe we should install it in the course
of the workshop. Or maybe I should just roll a live Linux CD with
everything nice on it... but that may be a bit heavy-handed.

Whatever. Anyway, I need to do screenshots by the end of the week
(and probably it would do no harm to have them of both Emacs and
XEmacs), and it would also be nice if we'd have a good idea of what
the future brings. It is obvious that preview-latex with the new
icons (some of which look rather ghastly, actually, because of
mechanical scaling) should be on the screenshots and syntax
highlighting and some AUCTeX menus. Again, I'll try convincing
Fabrice that I can use Emacs for the workshop, but it will probably
not matter that much what I use for the slides/talk.

All the best,

[Ralf Angeli]

Post by David Kastrup
This is supposed to be a workshop going over several hours. Fabrice
has said that I'll probably have Windows boxen (oh great) with the
latest XEmacs installed (oh great).

I hope you will get at least the possibility to test the things you
want to do in this workshop on these machines. If not, this is a
recipe for disaster.

Post by David Kastrup
Or maybe I should just roll a live Linux CD with
everything nice on it... but that may be a bit heavy-handed.

Such CDs would not be bad as a backup strategy. But in order to stay
friends with the local admins there, you will probably have to make
sure that the CDs don't allow access to the hard disks of these PCs.

Post by David Kastrup
Whatever. Anyway, I need to do screenshots by the end of the week
(and probably it would do no harm to have them of both Emacs and
XEmacs), and it would also be nice if we'd have a good idea of what
the future brings. It is obvious that preview-latex with the new
icons (some of which look rather ghastly, actually, because of
mechanical scaling)

I saw that and immediately fired up The Gimp to change it but the
result was less than convincing. One would probably get better
results by preparing the original in a vector-based format (e.g. SVG
with Sodipodi or Inkscape), scale that down and tweak it a bit.

[David Kastrup]

Post by Ralf Angeli

Post by David Kastrup
This is supposed to be a workshop going over several hours. Fabrice
has said that I'll probably have Windows boxen (oh great) with the
latest XEmacs installed (oh great).

I hope you will get at least the possibility to test the things you
want to do in this workshop on these machines. If not, this is a
recipe for disaster.

Fabrice just replied. It will be some sort of Linux box presumably,
and Emacs is not problem. Joy.

[Miguel Frasson]

Dear David

Post by David Kastrup
Ok, I just got a mail from the EuroTeX organizers: they need the
handouts for the conference by the end of the week, so screenshots and
similar should be prepared a few days before if I want to have a chance
of working them into my demo. This probably will mostly affect
Miguel...

What I have, working, is the toolbar as it is now, with the symbol
toolbar, which I use personally from time to time. I can make screenshots
of it. Is there something more specific that you need?

Post by David Kastrup
This is supposed to be a workshop going over several hours. Fabrice
has said that I'll probably have Windows boxen (oh great) with the
latest XEmacs installed (oh great).

XEmacs in windows is the worse plataform to demonstate the toolbar,
specially the symbols toolbar :-( The toolbar will demonstrate some XEmacs
bugs instead. This one can be an argument to use with Fabrice. With
windows, Emacs does much better in my personal opinion, since I get what I
expect: features working as documented (in the XEmacs toolbar, this is
*not* the case).

XEmacs in GNU/Linux is not problem IIRC, since I adapted the icons to work
with it (extra work) :-(

Post by David Kastrup
I think we would not necessarily be doing the users a favor (in
particular considering Unicode), so I am thinking of maybe persuading
Fabrice that we can take a rather recent Windows CVS Emacs instead.

It must be a Windows CVS with image support (often not the case), like
found in
http://www.crasseux.com/emacs/

It is just grab libraries for image support that are mentioned, from the
GNUwin32 project
http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/

At home, I have a nice experience with Emacs CVS in windows.

Post by David Kastrup
Whatever. Anyway, I need to do screenshots by the end of the week
(and probably it would do no harm to have them of both Emacs and
XEmacs)

Tomorrow I have time and I will make them. If you have ideas, please tell
me.

Miguel.

Ps: I am sorry for not have too much time available. Next week I defend
my thesis in Leiden (Netherlands), and I am quite busy with moving things
to Brazil (my country), organising the defense and goodbye party, and all
my free time is spend with having dinners with friends. I expect to have
time to continue development when I arrive in Brazil.

[Uwe Brauer]

David> This is supposed to be a workshop going over several hours.
David> Fabrice has said that I'll probably have Windows boxen (oh
David> great) with the latest XEmacs installed (oh great). I
David> think we would not necessarily be doing the users a favor
David> (in particular considering Unicode), so I am thinking of
David> maybe persuading Fabrice that we can take a rather recent
David> Windows CVS Emacs instead. I have to take an attempt of
David> convincing him about that. Maybe we should install it in
David> the course of the workshop. Or maybe I should just roll a
David> live Linux CD with everything nice on it... but that may
David> be a bit heavy-handed.

Just for the protocol. I synchronised 11.55 with the latest xemacs
pkg. It is still pre-replease though.

Uwe